David Burge on the late King Abdullah

by Gramfan on February 3, 2015

in Gramfan (team member), Saudi Arabia, Shari'a

Here’s his Iowahawk blog.

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1 sound awake February 4, 2015 at 6:08 pm

i know this isnt popular but unfortunately we have to kinda suck up to saudi arabia (theyre the cleanest dirty shirt) for a myriad of reasons such as:

theyre an ally or at least not the enemy of our allies (or not our enemies) in the region-israel, egypt, jordan, uae, qatar, pakistan, etc
they control the price of energy
theyre a hedge against our enemies in the region-syria, iran, turkey, etc
theyre a hedge against russia
they are a key player in helping to keeping open strategically important sea/shipping lanes-red sea/suez canal/mandab strait/gulf of aden, persian gulf/strait of hormuz/gulf of oman

while i dont relish the idea that they are our ally because of how they treat people based on their religion, to have them as our enemy-or not our ally-i think would be way way worse; there are too many muslims over there that we have to pick and choose the least bad ones otherwise we have to take them all on

2 1389 February 4, 2015 at 6:15 pm

@ sound awake,
We should develop our own energy resources and not use oil from Muslim countries at all.

I’m also tired of the constant demonization of Russia in the US media. Russia isn’t our enemy, and if we leave Russia alone and stop trying to encroach on its borders, they’ll leave us alone.

3 Gramfan February 4, 2015 at 6:20 pm

The Saudis are making sure we don’t become energy-independent and are enabled by Obama.

Perhaps they are just the lesser of the evils in Islam, if that is possible.

They must be quaking in thier boots right now knowing Obama will not do anything about ISIS.

As always, hypocrites!


4 Gramfan February 4, 2015 at 6:55 pm


Pay wall so I have put it all in.Then again, it may not be true??
Saudi royals backed al-Qa’ida, says 9/11 plotter

THE only al-Qa’ida plotter convicted over the 9/11 attacks has told American lawyers that members of the Saudi royal family donated millions of dollars to the terror group in the 1990s.

French citizen Zacarias Moussaoui, dubbed the “20th hijacker,” made the revelations in court papers filed in a New York federal court by lawyers for victims of the attacks who accuse Saudi Arabia of supporting al-Qa’ida.

The Saudi embassy denied the allegations, branding Moussaoui “a deranged criminal whose own lawyers presented evidence that he was mentally incompetent.” At trial in 2006, his lawyers argued that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and he exhibited stormy and unpredictable behaviour in court.

In testimony he said he created a database of al-Qa’ida donors, including members of the royal family, such as former intelligence chief Prince Turki al Faisal and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who was Saudi ambassador to the United States for 22 years until 2005.

Moussaoui said he met in Afghanistan an official from the Saudi embassy in Washington to discuss al-Qa’ida’s plots to attack the United States, and that he was supposed to meet the same man again in the US capital for help on a plot to shoot down Air Force One.

He also claimed there were direct dealings between senior Saudi officials and then al-Qa’ida chief Osama bin Laden, saying he travelled to Saudi Arabia twice to deliver handwritten letters between the al-Qa’ida mastermind and senior Saudis, including Prince Turki.

Denying the claims, the Saudi embassy said in a statement: “The September 11 attack has been the most intensely investigated crime in history and the findings show no involvement by the Saudi government or Saudi officials.” Moussaoui, who was found criminally responsible at his trial in 2006, pleaded guilty to plotting the deadliest terror attacks in US history and is incarcerated at a supermax prison in Colorado.

A defence psychologist testified at Moussaoui’s trial to say he exhibited classic symptoms of schizophrenia.

Across 127 pages of transcript, Moussaoui said the money from wealthy Saudi donors was “crucial” to al-Qa’ida in the late 1990s.

He talked about donations of two to three million dollars and said top-ranking officials were close to bin Laden — a fellow Saudi — through social connections.

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