Fatheaded Fatwas

by 1389 on July 28, 2011

in 1389 (blog admin), Blazing Cat Fur, clothing, fatwa, Islam, Pakistan, Taliban

Now they’re coming for the…smileys?

From World’s Craziest Fatwas

Pile of smileys

The Evil Emoticons

The Fatwa: Multaqa Ahl al Hadeeth: Emoticon fatwa

I can almost get behind this one. Sure, they’re annoying, but evil? Really? Well, to a Muslim forum looking to make a name for itself—yes.

According to Muslim Internet Forum Multaqa Ahl al Hadeeth, “Emoticons are forbidden because of its imitation to Allah’s creatures whether it is original or mixture or even deformed one and since the picture is the face and the face is what makes the real picture then emoticons which represent faces that express emotions then all that add up to make them Haram.” Um…so should I hide away all of my child hood drawings while I’m at it? I sucked at art.

Additionally, “A woman should not use these images when speaking to a man who is not her mahram, because these faces are used to express how she is feeling, so it is as if she is smiling, laughing, acting shy and so on, and a woman should not do that with a non-mahram man. It is only permissible for a woman to speak to men in cases of necessity, so long as that is in a public chat room and not in private……Define ‘necessity’….hormones count? or a really big smiley face…

3D smiley with tongue out

Verdict: How do they find the time to think about this crap? 🙂 XOXOX 😉 XOXOX 😛 XOXOX 😀

Many more here.

I don’t know whether this involved a formal fatwa, but still…

Pakistan: Taliban make bonfire of un-Islamic cloth in Wana

(h/t: Blazing Cat Fur)

July 26, 2011

PESHAWAR, Pakistan: A Taliban group in Pakistan on Tuesday burned a huge quantity of cloth taken from shopkeepers, saying it was too thin to be made into suitably modest garments, officials said.

The Islamist extremists stormed shops in Wana, the main town of the lawless South Waziristan tribal region, which borders Afghanistan, and made a bonfire of the cloth in a public area near the bazaar.

Shopkeeper Rahimullah Khan told AFP that at least eight armed men burst into his premises and took away bundles of raw cloth that they said was too thin to make respectable clothing.

“They said it was un-Islamic to wear clothes that don’t properly cover the human body,” Khan said.

More here.

By that logic, Pakistani Muslims of both sexes aren’t allowed to have cloth to make underclothes or sleepwear. They have to wear the same oppressively hot, heavy outerwear day and night, with no undergarments to absorb their sweat. Glad I don’t live there!


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1 velvethammer July 28, 2011 at 11:07 pm

I wonder how they would feel about this?
*~@:{(>

😆 😆 😛

2 Hesperado July 29, 2011 at 9:56 pm

Remember that Islam is iconoclastic (anti-images of any kind, and particularly with regard to religious representation). Indeed, I recall reading in a history of the Church Council era (circa 2nd century A.D. to 8th century A.D.) that the “Iconoclastic movement” that temporarily erupted in the Eastern part of early Christianity about the 7th or 8th century may well have been influenced by Islam. I.e., the early Christian “Iconoclasts” (who went around destroying icons) may well have been Christian dhimmis (or, as Hugh Fitzgerald calls them, “Islamochristians”).

So I suppose this latest fatwa may be said to be “Emoticonoclastic”. :mrgreen:

3 1389 July 29, 2011 at 11:19 pm

Emoticonoclastic! That’s a keeper! 😆

As a matter of fact, our pastor, who knows church history very well, says that he is pretty sure that the “Iconoclasts” were influenced by the growing threat of Islam at that time. The iconoclast position has been officially condemned as a heresy in the Orthodox Christian Church. We celebrate the final rejection of iconoclasm every year on the Sunday of Orthodoxy.

4 Zenster July 29, 2011 at 11:26 pm

How do they find the time to think about this crap?

These imams are all part of Islam’s highly parasitic clerical class. Think about it, (I know it hurts…). They don’t have anything better to do.

The reality of it is, THEY HAVE DANGEROUS QUANTITIES OF SPARE TIME ON THEIR HANDS.

This is the entire problem with Islam. So many varied and productive activities ― many of which are both regarded as normal and justifiably well-rewarded in the West ― are entirely haram in the Islamic world; such that Muslim hands are left to be little more than the devil’s workshop and nothing else. (BIG SURPRISE, I KNOW)

None of this even remotely addresses how Qur’anic doctrine’s voluminous hate speech lends additional impetus to global terrorism, so-called “honor killings”, the endless internecine takfiri driven violence and a plethora of other Islamic-based barbarity that has become so familiar to relatively aware Western minds.

A Taliban group in Pakistan on Tuesday burned a huge quantity of cloth taken from shopkeepers, saying it was too thin to be made into suitably modest garments, officials said.

Is it not apparent that, soon enough, simple gauze will be sufficiently transparent to the point where even treating wounds appropriately with that common but see-through dressing will become haram?

It is as if underwear ― because everyone knows that it is relatively transparent and, even more so when it is wet ― must be banned for fear that anyone should ever see someone’s undergarments (or that which resides beneath them [gasp!]).

Brace yourselves for an overwhelmingly Politically Incorrect concept. What would Islamic fundamentalists do about all of the thugs (i.e., potential recruits), who parade about in public with their pants hanging so low that their underwear is both exposed and in contact with general seating surfaces such that they transfer dirhams of haram fecal or urinary matter to adjacent upholstery?

Normally, they would be KILLED. But, what do these Muslim terrorists do? They routinely recruit such thugs and conveniently overlook their unhygienic practices in favor of absorbing more gangsta-types who will enforce their thuggish, shari’a-based will.

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? (Replies welcome.)

Go ahead. Spew your most Conservative or supportive doctrine. We NEED your arguments in order to dispute even the most well-defined strategies. Thank you.

5 Hesperado July 31, 2011 at 2:16 am

Thanks 1389.

About the Iconoclasts of history, I’m thinking that perhaps that, at least in part, they emanated from Christians who had already come under the domination of Muslims as Islam began to spread very quickly in the mid 7th century in the Eastern part of the Empire.

6 Hesperado July 31, 2011 at 2:31 am

Zenster,

Islam is an intense and massive OCD, and it has a circular blueprint for this in the Sunna (the 1,001 Dos and Don’ts of Mohammed).

Furthermore, since the “science” of the hadiths is so complex due to the nature of the source material (a jungle of material to sift through and interpret “logically”), you have throughout the history of Islam countless scholars of fiqh who of course do not question the fundamental dogma of following Mohammed — but do question precisely how to follow his mad and myriad instructions, prohibitions and prescriptions; and this has generated literal mountains of literature on what is the most authoritative Compulsion to follow on any given matter of minutia of life.

Imagine an entire culture of millions of people suffering from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, with people among them assigned roles of higher authority in “interpreting” the various precise manners of being obsessive and compulsive about thousands of different things — from how to go to the bathroom to how to wash your hair to how to eat to how you sleep, have sex, raise a family, slaughter an animal, and fight those ever-present Enemies always around you.

7 Zenster July 31, 2011 at 10:03 pm

Hesperado: Islam is an intense and massive OCD …

And your point is?

Furthermore, since the “science” of the hadiths is so complex …

Puhlese get over any such sort of tragically misplaced notion. Whatever “science” there is within Islam is so dismal and decrepit that it is of a deleterious nature and not “progressive” by any means or definition of the word. Especially with respect to the advancing “science” that is so familiar to Western nations.

… you have throughout the history of Islam countless scholars of fiqh who of course do not question the fundamental dogma of following Mohammed …

I rest my case.

… but do question precisely how to follow his mad and myriad instructions, prohibitions and prescriptions…

Again, I rest my case. How else do you deal with such ideologues save by posing an existential threat?

… this has generated literal mountains of literature on what is the most authoritative Compulsion to follow on any given matter of minutia of life…

Again, your point is?

Imagine an entire culture of millions of people suffering from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, with people among them assigned roles of higher authority in “interpreting” the various precise manners of being obsessive and compulsive about thousands of different things…

If, as it has become increasingly apparent, suicidal, mass murdering jihad is an utmost imperative for them; why not just kill the lot and be done with it?

Inquiring minds want to know!

8 1389 July 31, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Zenster,

There are too many of them worldwide, and we don’t have the capability of doing that. In any event, it is also a war of ideas. At least in some ways, we will have to treat it like the Cold War against the former Soviet Bloc.

It IS the right thing to do to kill off the jihadi leaders and all those who are actively and directly making war upon us. That is why the “Rules of Engagement” in Afghanistan are so wrong. Once we get rid of those, it’s time to quarantine Islamic countries in the way we did the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War, and keep up the pressure on them to give up Islam. We need to support anyone and everyone in the world who is fighting against Islam. We also need to spread information about why Islam is wrong and why those who subscribe to it should give it up, despite the risks involved.

For future reference, if you log on to this blog before you enter a comment, then your comment will appear immediately without having to go through the moderation process. This would save me significant time and effort.

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