Zenster Explains Why Islam Is Not Worth Salvaging

by Zenster on July 1, 2011

in female genital mutilation (FGM), Gates of Vienna (colleagues), Islam, music, Shari'a, women's issues, Zenster (team member)

Before we begin:

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Do you have links or citations on sexuality in Islam?

A recent post at Gates of Vienna, Islamic Sexuality: A Survey of Evil, announced that Ann Barnhardt will be the keynote speaker at the Center for Strategic Analysis annual seminar in Las Vegas on Saturday, September 24th.

If you have links or citations regarding Islamic sexuality, please forward that information to Ann Barnhardt at the email address on her website.

Zenster weighs in…

In the comments on the blog post cited above, Zenster explains how Islam brings physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual ruin to every individual and society that embraces it:

Comment #4:

I think it is important to note that whatever passes for “love” in Islamic culture may well be a far cry from the romantic intimacy by which we define it in the West.

Way too much of Muslim sexual interaction involves subjugation, ownership, denial of vulnerability, outright force and a host of other behavioral motifs that simply defy, if not prohibit, the development of healthy attachments or constructive interpersonal bonding.

As Pat Condell has noted, Islam is a culture of rape be it hetero or homosexual. The entire practice of purdah (female confinement), is a strong driver in both male and female homosexuality while ensuring that whatever matches do occur are usually driven by political or commercial interests instead of for true love.

As a flip-side to all of this, imagine how any attempts at actually establishing a healthy romantic relationship must be done secretly and in total opposition to all social norms. The taint that this must cast upon an individual’s valiant efforts to defy such abnormality can only serve to further warp the substrate of interpersonal exchange.

The whole concept of marrying off children to people they have often met briefly or not at all means that a disproportionate number of Islamic marriages are coerced and potentially loveless. To imbue something so physically and emotionally intimate as marriage with an undercurrent of detachment is not just an abomination but serves to desensitize a culture overall.

This desensitization is manifest in the way that cruelty is so commonplace and barely given a second glance. The Islamic obsession with death is another facet of this same anti-life frame of mind.

If one examines how Islam imposes the death penalty for both adultery and apostasy, it becomes readily apparent that this ideology is nothing but a spiritual and psycho-sexual gulag.

Consider these other commonplace aspects of daily Islamic life:

No dogs for children to play with and learn from about unconditional love and devotion.

Illiterate mothers who cannot read a bedtime story to their children or help them learn how to read.

No freedom of speech that permits healthy discussion and critical analysis of current events.

No freedom of religion that is so vital to a pluralistic society.

No graphic depiction of most living forms which curtails artistic creativity.

No public displays of affection that lend a romantic atmosphere to daily life.

No pork or other haram foods that widen the diet and give variety to sustenance.

No beautiful or shapely women proudly strutting their stuff on the street.

No non-liturgical music to break up the monotony of constant religious worship.

No alcohol to unwind with and enhance convivial gatherings.

No co-ed intermingling that allows young people to refine their social skills.

Now, imagine how barren and loveless such a world must be. From all indications, it would seem that healthy loving relationships would be the exception and not the rule. If one reflects upon the monumental amount of misery and human suffering that Islam has inflicted throughout its entire history, the sheer existence of this inhumane ideology becomes a blatant affront to all Western traditions of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Comment #7:

Jewel: [#5] Other than the muezzin’s five times a day call to worship, there is no music allowed.

My qualification was to prevent nitpickers. In reality, you have only further cemented my case. Thank you for the constructive input.

As someone who is self-taught on several instruments, performs publicly and also composes and writes lyrics in a wide variety of styles, I cannot imagine living without music.

Astonishingly enough, even cynical old Friedrich Nietzsche said:

Without music, life would be a mistake.

Comment #52:

The list in my original comment (#4), was from a long time ago and omits one very important thing:

Any society populated by a majority of females who have been genitally mutilated can only be one that is so devoid of sexual fairness, true mutual pleasure and anything even remotely resembling gender equality as to be permanently and irreversibly dysfunctional.

It is impossible to imagine how anyone who advocates or defends FGM (Female Genital Mutilation), can possibly talk about any sort of wholesome, functioning community.

A woman who has been subjected to FGM is essentially being raped every day of her life. Intercourse or no intercourse, fulfilling, satisfying lovemaking has been permanently denied her ― as it often is for many victims of rape ― and that is perpetual rape of a most heinous sort.

Any culture that countenances FGM cannot possibly claim to have “normal” or “healthy” sexual mores. It is a physical impossibility. A man who advocates or defends FGM is unworthy of a woman’s attentions and deserves, at best, to live a solitary and involuntarily celibate life…

Comment #57:

Hesperado: [#54] In Muslim countries, Muslim women are mainly the practitioners of FGM on the little girls.

Which is why I lost all sympathy for Muslimas a long, long time ago.

Muslim women are not salvageable. They are thoroughly brainwashed co-dependent enablers of their victimizers. There’s no hope of a Lorena Bobbit movement arising from them in any numbers sufficient to make a difference.

You are, once again, preaching to the choir. It is not just “Muslim women [who] are not salvageable”.


This is the point I was making in the “A Pathetic Badge of Honor” thread. To wit:

I have long maintained that, even if it were possible to disregard terrorism ― and it most certainly is not ― shari’a law’s institutionalized misogyny is still an ultimate deal-breaker with respect to ever allowing Islam to participate as an equal on the world stage.

Neither do I believe that Islam can be rehabilitated. Just rendering equality for women would make Islam alien unto itself. Abject Gender Apartheid is an unspoken “pillar” of Islam.

There is so little in Islam that is worth salvaging and such intense internal opposition to any such thing that reformation or rehabilitation is rendered nigh well impossible to the point where there is no way to even visualize how it might be achieved.

To close, imagine how much more peaceful and less hostile or miserable this entire world would be if Islam simply did not exist. What more damning thing can be said of Islam?


{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Stogie July 1, 2011 at 4:19 pm

Very well stated arguments. I agree completely. If Islam provides anything useful, good, healthy or beautiful to mankind, it is not obvious to me.

I think Islam is completely evil and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

2 Zenster July 2, 2011 at 1:28 am

Bravo, Stogie. I have always asked for someone, anyone to please enumerate Islam’s redeeming qualities.

To date, I have yet to receive a satisfactory reply. Temperance, fidelity (as if!), chastity and other such ostensibly virtuous aspects of Muslim life are always enforced under the most harsh of penalties. Coerced (i.e., involuntary), cooperation hardly qualifies as piousness or devout adherence, regardless of what Islam would have us think.

3 WLIL July 2, 2011 at 2:05 am

I think islamic people are unsalvageable for they are too preoccupied with their socalled islamic achievement rather than give credit to western achievement that give them the opportunities to boast about their socalled islamic achievement which in reality is more to do with their islamic community failure.

4 WLIL July 2, 2011 at 8:27 pm

Zenster, your above comment sums up very well with regard the fake qualities that those moslems and their islam tried to impress on us nonbelievers.

5 naff November 11, 2012 at 5:14 pm

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