Is there a terrorist connection with the California wildfires?

by 1389 on October 25, 2007

in 1389 (blog admin), California, counterjihad, disaster preparedness, ecoterrorism, New Zealand, trees and forests, wildfire

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House burning in 2007 California wildfires

We have asked this question before:

Wildland Fires in Greece Blamed on Terrorism – Could it Happen in the US?

1389 Blog has been tracking this issue, and we will continue to do so as we await a more definitive answer.

Others are asking the same question too:

Anyone with information about the cause of the Santiago fire (Orange Co) is asked to call a tip line at (800) 540-8282. If you see something, say something!

Malicious motives:

  • American Muslim: California Fires Are Allah’s Retribution on Infidels

    An American Muslim in Charlotte, North Carolina, named Samir Khan, chimes in on the great is Allah punishing the infidels in California debate:

    Most Muslims in America shy from discussing the natural disasters that occur to America especially in light of Allah’s anger. They get this strange idea somehow that Allah’s wrath and anger has nothing to do with the great natural disasters…..

    1389 wants to know: Has the FBI gotten around to asking Samir Khan and his associates just how much they know about who set those fires in California?

Past evidence of arson and pyroterrorism:

Other Factors:

Are drought and dry winds to blame?

The answer? Yes, but only up to a point. Drought provides the dry fuel for widespread fires, but it doesn’t provide the trigger that ignites the actual flames. Of course, there’s always room for research to improve the state of the art in firefighting, and for organizational improvements to deploy firefighting resources as efficiently as possible. But none of that explains what ignited the fires in the first place!

Population, terrain, and fuel:

In densely populated areas, more homes and other buildings are exposed to destruction by fire. It is also more difficult to evacuate threatened areas, to protect existing structures, to create firebreaks, and to do controlled burns to remove the dry fuel that allows wildland fires to go out of control.

  • Homes Spared, Lost in Fires’ Random Destruction
  • The Great Divide – Man and Nature: Learning Brushfire Lessons From America

    With bushfire season fast approaching, a contingent of Australian and New Zealand firefighters have recently returned from North America, where they took lessons from their counterparts in managing extreme bushfires.

    The Department of Sustainability and Environment’s Richard Teychenne was a member of the group who journeyed from Canada, down the west coast of the USA and into Mississippi, in the south.

    “The tour went for about 32 days, we travelled about 60,000 kilometres, took about 16 flights, three bus trips and ended up back at home about a week and a half ago,” Richard told ABC Gippsland’s Gerard Callinan this morning.

    . . .

    He said issues of population also hampered American firefighters’ ability to conduct fuel-reduction burns in fire-prone areas.

    “With a population of over 300 million, compared to Australia’s population over 20 million, the issues that they are facing is how can they actually do fuel reduction burning?”

    “In LA they haven’t done burning in two years,” Richard said.

  • Fox News Reports, Networks Ignore Consequences of Not Clearing Brush

    Fox News, just as Glenn Beck previously, picked up on an observation that the rest of the mainstream media largely ignored: brush left in place under environmental groups’ pressure fueled much of the fires in southern California.

Copycat arson or accidental fires:

  • Officials: Boy with matches started fire

    According to the article, this particular individual has admitted to starting the Agua Dulce fire, which consumed more than 38,000 acres and destroyed 21 homes.

    There were numerous separate fires in California; no one is suggesting that all of them were ignited in the same way. One possibility is copycat crime, which is likely whenever high-profile lawbreaking has been reported or even suspected.

    In addition, when weather conditions facilitate the rapid spread of fire, it’s all too easy for someone to lose control of a small bonfire or debris fire that was never intended to spread. One carelessly tossed cigarette butt or match can be enough to start a major fire.

Innovations on the horizon?

  • New Fire-Retardant Gel Can Save Homes

    HOT SPRINGS, S.D. (AP) – It was the most intense fire ever recorded in the Black Hills National Forest, but nearly all homes coated with a slimy gel were saved while dozens of houses nearby burned to the ground.

    The gel was a super-absorbent polymer that can hold many times its weight in water and clings well to vertical surfaces and glass. It is mixed with water and then can be sprayed on homes with a truck-mounted hose or a backpack apparatus, or dropped from a plane.

    The substance is relatively new to firefighting, having been developed about a decade ago, and is not widely used. But some firefighters who have tried it are impressed, saying it offers longer-lasting protection than the foam retardants that have been around for many years.

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{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

1 kevin October 24, 2007 at 7:16 pm

Thanks for the mention, I will return the favor.

2 Joyce October 25, 2007 at 3:08 am

Al Qaeda detainee talked about setting fires in Southwestern USA in 2003-

3 Joyce October 25, 2007 at 3:10 am

This is a blog that transcribes info directly from the police and fire authority scanners for the San Bernardino area fires…

4 Joyce October 25, 2007 at 3:11 am

Sorry, I gave you the wrong link. This is the San Bernardino scanner blog…

5 Joyce October 25, 2007 at 3:48 am
6 DMartyr October 25, 2007 at 5:53 am

Lebanon facing wild fires as well – only the citizens who rushed to contain the fire were shot at. Fires certainly appear to be a promising tactic.

7 clifylq October 29, 2007 at 6:09 pm




8 Incognito October 31, 2007 at 3:24 pm

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. How simple and easy would that be to just strike a match.

But as you say, the Santa Ana winds might spread the fire, but it takes something to ignite the fire to begin with. we know one of the fires was set by some young kid. But who knows about the others.

Very sad!

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