Cayce SC school caves to atheist pressure group, cancels Operation Christmas Child toy drive

by 1389 on November 19, 2013

in 1389 (blog admin), Christmas, culture wars, education

The OCC website explains how to pack your own shoeboxes for Operation Christmas Child, and where to drop them off.

WLTX has the story:

Cayce, SC (WLTX) — An elementary school in Cayce is canceling a Christmas toy drive after a threat of legal action.

East Point Academy is a publically-funded charter school under the South Carolina Public Charter School District. About 360 students attend.

For the past three years, the school has participated in “Operation Christmas Child.” Under the program, kids collect toys, pencils and other small items, pack them into shoe boxes, and donate to needy children.

That now has to stop after the school received a letter Monday from the American Humanist Association, a national nonprofit organization with over 20,000 members and 125,000 supporters across the country, according to the letter.

The mission of American Humanist Association’s legal center, according to the letter, is “to protect one of the most fundamental principles of (American) democracy: the Constitutional mandate requiring separation of church and state.”

The letter called the school’s involvement in Operation Christmas Child “unconstitutional.”

“The letter was very explicit that there would be litigation against us if we did not stop,” said school East Point Academy’s principal, Renee Mathews.

Mathews said that of the two full years the school has participated, before the practice was stopped with the letter, about 100 families participated each year.

The letter came as a shock to her and others at the school because she hasn’t had many issues from the local community.

“We have parents that ask questions, but in this case, it’s not really a parent. It’s an outside group,” she said.

The letter was sent on behalf of a parent at the school. It points to the fact that Operation Christmas Child is part of “Samaritan’s Purse,” an international Christian based organization led by Franklin Graham, son of Evangelist Billy Graham.

“There’s no religious literature tied with it,” Mathews said. “There’s no speakers who come. There’s no religious affiliation at all.”

The school’s principal says there are a number of parents who’ve told her they already prepared boxes. She’s encouraging them to donate those items to a charity of their choosing.

East Point Academy says they will continue to take part in other Christmas related programs, such as Toys for Tots.

Video here.

Poor Richard’s News has further details on the Cayce situation.

Townhall.com reports that another school, Sky View Academy in Colorado, has also discontinued their Christmas Child toy drive under threat of an AHA lawsuit.

Don’t be fooled.
The AHA is not about “separation of church and state.”
It’s all about punishing Christians and suppressing Christianity.

Public schools in the US are being used as a weapon against our Constitutional right to free exercise of religion. Some of them promote a completely secular world view, while others stealthily promote Islam. Either way, Christianity is ruthlessly suppressed. If you’re a Christian parent, it’s time to take your kids out of the public school system.

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1 lwesson November 19, 2013 at 12:11 pm

The mission of American Humanist Association’s legal center, according to the letter, is “to protect one of the most fundamental principles of (American) democracy: the Constitutional mandate requiring separation of church and state.”

This group must be the one that rode the small school bus to school and then off to special classrooms. They start off with a mission statement that is flat out hilarious as it is farcical. Make up Unicorn History, shall we say, helps them. They need help. Here, I will try to assist my sad fellow bipedal creatures.

One: ( 1 ) The American Republic is NOT a Democracy. Write that on the chalkboard one hundred and forty four ( 144 ) times. Cultural Marxists hate when this simple gross fact is pointed out. If they could dissolve into primordial goop, that would be swimmingly well for all of us.

So what is The Republic? It is a Representative Constitutional Republic. The Founders, Creators ( this upsets some people to read –Creators–, see the last primordial comment outcome ) had a very very, dim view of Democracy, seeing such as eventually self suicidal, leading to MOB RULE, and from there, into TYRANNY. This is why Progressives, Communists, bipedal sorts like this group, dress up in their Democracy Suits and run flaming around. Mob Rule is desired and the dread force of Tyranny winked at, embraced, if it serves their cause.

Two ( 2 ) “to protect one of the most fundamental principles of (American) democracy:

“the Constitutional mandate requiring separation of church and state.” Requiring? Really?

What mental garbage is this? Some serious drugs are being used so it would seem. There is NOTHING in the Constitution about some mandate, some “fundamental principal” about Separation of Church & State. Either they know that they are out right in your face LYING, something that seems really popular, or again, there is a fundamental head case issue here.

The Bill of Rights insures that there is Freedom of Religion, NOT, Freedom FROM Religion. Further, The Founders–Creators, from their context of thinking saw a Christian Nation, PERIOD. Congress was forbidden to interfere creating some Church Of England arrangement. States were NOT forbidden. Some States set up a sanctified State Religion –all Christian–. I bet The Founders/Creators would revisit this issue with the creation of a Christian American Church to nip the cancer of something like The American Humanist Association, in the bud.

It is really quite simple, to look at what The Founders/Creators ( please melt ) said, practiced, placed within the Halls of Government, in The Supreme Court… but for these Bipeds, that does not play well for their agenda. Read again their core mandate. Made up stuff. Imaginary friends are likely there too. Time to sit in a corner with a Dunce Cap to protect us all.

What is sad is that East Point Academy, let these soulless bullies threaten them, to take their “lunch” money, to beat them up using the threat of The Court… What gutless sellouts. You have taught the kiddies something East Point, and it is not good. I would take my child out of there ASAP. Merry Christmas!—melting melting melting…

2 Doug Indeap November 20, 2013 at 12:05 am

Separation of church and state is a bedrock principle of our Constitution, much like the principles of separation of powers and checks and balances. In the first place, the Supreme Court has thoughtfully, authoritatively, and repeatedly decided as much; it is long since established law. In the second place, the Court is right. In the Constitution, the founders did not simply say in so many words that there should be separation of powers and checks and balances; rather, they actually separated the powers of government among three branches and established checks and balances. Similarly, they did not merely say there should be separation of church and state; rather, they actually separated them by (1) establishing a secular government on the power of “We the people” (not a deity), (2) according that government limited, enumerated powers, (3) saying nothing to connect that government to god(s) or religion, (4) saying nothing to give that government power over matters of god(s) or religion, and (5), indeed, saying nothing substantive about god(s) or religion at all except in a provision precluding any religious test for public office. Given the norms of the day (by which governments generally were grounded in some appeal to god(s)), the founders’ avoidance of any expression in the Constitution suggesting that the government is somehow based on any religious belief was quite a remarkable and plainly intentional choice. They later buttressed this separation of government and religion with the First Amendment, which affirmatively constrains the government from undertaking to establish religion or prohibit individuals from freely exercising their religions. The basic principle, thus, rests on much more than just the First Amendment.

That the phrase “separation of church and state” does not appear in the text of the Constitution assumes much importance, it seems, to some who mistakenly supposed it was there and, upon learning of their error, reckon they’ve solved a Constitutional mystery. To those familiar with the Constitution, the absence of the metaphor commonly used to name one of its principles is no more consequential than the absence of other phrases (e.g., Bill of Rights, separation of powers, checks and balances, fair trial, religious liberty) used to describe other undoubted Constitutional principles.

To the extent that some nonetheless would like confirmation–in those very words–of the founders’ intent to separate government and religion, Madison and Jefferson supplied it. Madison, who had a central role in drafting the Constitution and the First Amendment, confirmed that he understood them to “[s]trongly guard[] . . . the separation between Religion and Government.” Madison, Detached Memoranda (~1820). Indeed, he understood the original Constitution–without the First Amendment–to separate religion and government. He made plain, too, that they guarded against more than just laws creating state sponsored churches or imposing a state religion. Mindful that even as new principles are proclaimed, old habits die hard and citizens and politicians could tend to entangle government and religion (e.g., “the appointment of chaplains to the two houses of Congress” and “for the army and navy” and “[r]eligious proclamations by the Executive recommending thanksgivings and fasts”), he considered the question whether these actions were “consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom” and responded: “In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the United States forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion.”

3 CzechRebel November 21, 2013 at 11:45 am

@ Doug Indeap

Separation of Church and State is NOT part of the American Constitution. Also, we as Orthodox Christians cannot accept the modern leftist view of the First Amendment. We believe that the government should not interfere with Church affairs, nor should the Church try to run the government. True, the Orthodox Church and the governments of Orthodox countries have crossed this line in the past and it has not been good for either the government or the church.

However, we believe that it is a good thing for those who govern Orthodox countries (for example Russia) to be Orthodox Christians (for example Vladamir Putin). In Russia, both Putin and Patriarch Kyrill are very good friends. But, Putin won’t tell the Patriarch how to run his Church or vice versa. However, I am sure both will reassure the other in upholding their Christian faith.

Likewise, we see no problem with Christian people in American having Christian rulers who govern by Christian principles. We don’t see how putting up Christmas decorations “promotes a religion.” Does wearing a Halloween costume and carving pumpkins promote Satanism? Does celebrating Thanksgiving promote eating disorders? Does celebrating Martin Luther King’s birthday promote racism? Does celebrating Labor Day promote Communism? Does celebrating Memorial Day and Veteran’s Day promote violence? Does celebrating St. Patrick’s Day promote alcoholism? Does celebrating Valentine’s Day promote promiscuity?

Of course, we find your comments to be highly offensive. The fact that you promote such a view and suggest that governments follow it is such an extreme affront to the “free exercise” clause, that what you say should be considered hate speech. You are obviously a very hate-filled individual.

1389 is trying to get a Constitutional lawyer to weight in on this as well because you certainly do NOT speak for all Constitutional scholars, if you even are one.

4 Mrs. Carley November 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm

The school needs to contact the lawyers for WAFR radio station. They are very good with these kinds of law suits.

5 Greg Perry April 17, 2014 at 8:49 am

Your article does not mention that the group’s efforts to convert the recipients of their gifts. The group is using the resources of a publicly funded institution to proselytize.

They are free to try to convert these poor people – God Bless America. Promote your efforts, tell families about it, visit churches. I agree with the effort.

Whether or not this activity crosses any constitutional line is an open question that can be considered in a court. Both sides have resources they can use to defend their points of view.

If a group was doing the same thing at a school using a school group and its resources to promote conversions to Islam or Hinduism or some other religion I would similarly. disagree. I think the American Humanists would too. These groups are not doing this.

6 1389 April 17, 2014 at 6:39 pm

@ Greg Perry,
The recipients of the gifts are free to choose whether or not to be converted. It isn’t as though the gifts are taken away if the kids or their parents don’t make a profession of faith!

Any efforts on the part of the organization to convert people is funded by the organization, not by the school or the school system.

Besides that, the First Amendment only prevents the federal government from designating one official state religion for the entire federation. States retained the right to have their own official religions, and some did at that time.

Seems a lot of people hate Christianity because it puts chains on our destructive appetites and instincts … and they look for any excuse to push it into obscurity. We’re getting more like the USSR every day.

1389AD

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