Irony alert: Germany begs Totalitarian Leader to dial it back a notch or ten

by 1389 on June 13, 2013

in 1389 (blog admin), Barack Hussein Obama, communism, Germany, Internet, privacy, tyranny

I will be the first to admit that I am no fan of the German government in any of its incarnations, including the current one. But then, I’m a Serbian-American who has some Jewish relatives. Let’s just say that I get tired of their constant efforts to obliterate us.

This time, though, they’re spot on.

Checkpoint Charlie

Ed Driscoll has the story at PJM:

In June of 2013: “Germany to Spymaster-in-Chief Obama: You are on some Eastern Bloc $#!+ right now,” Jim Treacher quips:

Fearless Leader from Rocky and Bullwinkle
Fearless Leader from Rocky and Bullwinkle

Dude? When Germany is telling you to knock it off? Maybe you should listen. I know you won’t, but you should.


German outrage over a U.S. Internet spying program has broken out ahead of a visit by Barack Obama, with ministers demanding the president provide a full explanation when he lands in Berlin next week and one official likening the tactics to those of the East German Stasi.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman has said she will raise the issue with Obama in talks next Wednesday, potentially casting a cloud over a visit that was designed to celebrate U.S.-German ties on the 50th anniversary John F. Kennedy’s famous “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech.

Government surveillance is an extremely sensitive topic in Germany, where memories of the dreaded Stasi secret police and its extensive network of informants are still fresh in the minds of many citizens.

Yeah, Barry will need to update that classic speech a bit: “Ich bin ein Faschist Soziopath.”

Am I the only one who was reminded of the Stasi when the White House started telling us to inform on your fellow Americans who say things that “seem fishy”? Four years ago, you would’ve been called paranoid for likening that to the Stasi. Today, you’d have to be a partisan idiot not to be reminded of totalitarian Cold War tactics.

Well, as I noted in June of 2010, when the fallout from the JournoList scandal was breaking, involving the self-described “Non-Official Campaign” by leftwing journalists to elect Obama in 2008 (and 2012), JournoList member Walter Shapiro wrote an article titled “The Death of JournoList: Does Privacy End at the Edge of Your Thoughts?” I responded by noting that Shapiro’s headline “seems like a rather disingenuous question for a man of the left to ask, as this is where the terrain invariably ends up, the further and further one moves left,” adding, “You wanted East Germany on the Potomac? Might as well have all of the trappings, boys.”

Incidentally, today Politico is reporting that Obama oversaw the “Greatest Expansion of Electronic Surveillance In U.S. History.” (Link safe, goes to Big Journalism.) Without of course noting how deeply Politico was in the tank for Obama in 2008 (and 2012).
At Hot Air yesterday, Allahpundit wrote, “Lindsey Graham: Sure, I’d support censoring your mail if it was necessary to counterterrorism,” joking that “Libertarianism has no greater asset than this guy”:

“In World War II, the mentality of the public was that our whole way of life was at risk, we’re all in. We censored the mail. When you wrote a letter overseas, it got censored. When a letter was written back from the battlefield to home, they looked at what was in the letter to make sure they were not tipping off the enemy,” Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told reporters on Capitol Hill. “If I thought censoring the mail was necessary, I would suggest it, but I don’t think it is.”…

“The First Amendment right to speak is sacrosanct, but it has limits,” Graham added. “In World War II, our population understood that what we say in letters could be used against [us by] our enemies. It was designed to protect us and ensure that we would have First Amendment rights because under the Japanese and Nazi regime, they weren’t that big into the First Amendment. We don’t need to censor the mail, but we do need to find out what the enemy’s up to.”

Wait ’til Graham discovers what we did in World War One. (But perhaps I shouldn’t give him any ideas.)

Related: In other news out of Germany, the New York Sun reports, “German Government Brands Goods Made in Factories That Are Owned by Jews”:

In light of its own sordid record during the 20th century, Germany and its leaders have a special responsibility to be exceptionally sensitive to such issues, particularly when they relate to Jews. After all, it was 80 years ago, in April 1933, that the Nazis launched a nationwide assault on Jewish owned businesses throughout Germany, painting yellow-and-black Stars of David on storefronts and discouraging people from patronizing them.

This was carried out under the slogan, “Kauft nicht bei Juden!” (Don’t buy from Jews!). Hence, for any German government to stand up and declare: “Don’t buy from Jews,” even if the proposal is limited to the Jews of Judea and Samaria, is downright chilling and should send a shiver down everyone’s spine.

No one is suggesting that Berlin is planning a second Holocaust, but there is no escaping the painful historical irony here.

And speaking of history, it was on this day [June 12] in 1987 that a very different US president than our current example uttered the words, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”

Read it all.

PJM commenter Art Chance warns of the tools of stealth totalitarianism:

I used to have a sign over my desk that said: “When the enemy is in range, so are you.” In keeping with that maxim I’ve had lots of conversations with bright young lads and lasses recently appointed to high office about what the other guys could do with that pretty new toy they wanted. This was my great fear about the Patriot Act; what would the Democrats do with it? There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat under the age of 50 or so at the leadership or candidate level. In the solidly Blue places they are openly outright communists though they prefer to be called Progressives. You have to be in your sixties or older now to remember when the open communists referred to their fellow travellers and assets who were in positions where they couldn’t be open communists as “progressive” people. In the less solidly Blue places, Democrat operatives and candidates have become really really good at “passing,” as the Black folk used to call it. Comrade Obama is a graphic example of “passing.” Instead of its oldtime use in describing a light-skinned Negro who could pass for a Caucasian and live in White society, in “post-racial” America, Comrade Obama is a communist apparatchik who can pass as a moderate Democrat. He can pass so well that in addition to having a large number of ordinary citizens fooled, he’s still got one Helluva lot of Republican leaders and officeholders fooled.

I’ve done lots of investigations, taken lots of disciplinary or dismissal actions, and made quite a few referrals for prosecution of government employees for their misuse/abuse of government data and information technologies. I could literally look over someone’s shoulder and capture every image and keystroke on the internet and in email. We were once doing a serious investigation of some bad acts involving a union paid agent, a couple of executive board members, and a group of stewards. We were reading all their email, monitoring all their phone contacts, though not the content, and monitoring and often screen capturing all their internet activity on government devices. The funny part was they were often conversing about how the government was probably reading or watching what they were doing but they did it anyway.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that when you put human beings in front of computers with access to confidential or classified information, some significant percentage of them will access that data and sell it, use it against someone, or use it to coerce someone. Where the Patriot Act’s provisions have placed us is putting us in the position of having to rely solely on the good intentions of the government, something I reject in any administration but especially in a Democrat administration, or on the courts remaining honest arbiters of truth and law, something they haven’t been at the trial court level in a very long time or even at the appellate level in the Blue places.

I actually agree with Mr. McCarthy about the government’s powers here and their utility for National defense, but we have two wars going on; one is the war against the US being conducted by foreign powers outside the US, the other is the war against the US as we know it by powers operating inside the US. I always had a lot more trust in the guy I knew was my enemy than in the guy I should be able to trust but wasn’t quite sure. I know that the Soros Junta and Comrade Obama’s Administration are my enemies. Unfortunately, all too many Americans still think they should be able to trust them.

Glenn Beck interview: Not a Jew alive if Hitler had Obama’s tech

‘We will be remembered as the most evil nation in history of the world’

As reports continue to flood in about President Obama’s massive surveillance state, media powerhouse Glenn Beck says, “There wouldn’t be a Jew alive on the planet today if Hitler had this technology.”

Beck made the statement Friday on his radio program while interviewing NSA whistleblower William Binney

Binney worked at the National Security Agency for nearly four decades, and said the secret surveillance of Americans began in October 2001.

He believes the NSA is storing information on 3 billion phone calls every day.

“I’m telling you, America,” Beck cautioned, “If we don’t stop this right now, we will be remembered as the most evil nation in history of the world. We will dwarf what Germany did. And I’d say that if Mitt Romney were in office and this were happening. I would be saying exactly the same thing.”

Beck continued: “This is the way totalitarian states are created, This is it. And as much as you want to say, ‘Aw, well, that’s hogwash.’ Well, what were they doing with the IRS? And the IRS is in charge of all of your health-care information next year. Don’t you put these puzzle pieces together? They’re in charge of your health care. ‘OK, well they’re not gonna do anything.’ Really? They already are! You wanna shut down the tea party? They can do it overnight. You wanna scoop up everybody who has ever been a part of the tea party, ever visited any website. … All they have to do is put the connections in, hit print, round them up.”

“There wouldn’t be a Jew alive on the planet today if Hitler had this technology,” he concluded. “Not a Jew alive on the planet. Not one.”

More here.

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1 theUg June 14, 2013 at 11:16 am

While I share many of the concerns expressed in this article (sans hyperbola and partisanship), I take an issue with this passage: “Am I the only one who was reminded of the Stasi when the White House started telling us to inform on your fellow Americans who say things that “seem fishy”? Four years ago, you would’ve been called paranoid for likening that to the Stasi. Today, you’d have to be a partisan idiot not to be reminded of totalitarian Cold War tactics.”

Either you (by endorsing Treacher’s opinion) do not know American history, or you are being dishonest to make a point, or you concur that Communist witch hunts of the 1910s and 1950s in America are indeed “totalitarian Cold War tactics”.

2 1389 June 14, 2013 at 11:56 am

“Either you (by endorsing Treacher’s opinion) do not know American history, or you are being dishonest to make a point, or you concur that Communist witch hunts of the 1910s and 1950s in America are indeed “totalitarian Cold War tactics”.”

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

After the fall of the former Soviet Union, many of the Soviet intelligence records became available. They proved beyond dispute that the US government, Hollywood, the media, and other influential institutions were, in fact, riddled with Soviet agents.

Joe McCarthy was right. It was no witch hunt. And the investigations were targeted – they involved no promiscuous gathering of data of typical Americans suspected of no wrongdoing.

3 theUg June 14, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Two points: a) Your sources are? I do not dispute the spying activity itself, everyone spies on everyone, just how “riddled” the things were? And remember, if McCarthy was so right, why were those people (CPUSA leadership in 1949 trial) incarcerated and fined under Smith Act and for contempt of Congress, and not for treason or espionage? You would imagine that with 1500 FBI informants in CPUSA ranks they would find plenty of espionage evidence. Instead, the prosecution focused on revolutionary literature from XIX century, and pushed the line of attack that CPUSA espoused violent overthrow of U.S. government based on that revolutionary rhetoric that was basis of their political ideology (by the way, I would love to see a legal action brought up against today’s conservative militias based on Smith Act or Dennis v. United States (1951), just for the sheer irony of it).

And b) media and public hysteria in those Smith Act trials were not conducive to the proper expenditure of justice. Much like the terrorist scare nowadays. Now there are also profiling, indefinite detention, lack of due process, and, now (as the case was for the past 13 years since the passage of Patriot Act, which also means you cannot just blame Obama for it), the blanket surveillance, all out of fear of small group of people.

4 1389 June 14, 2013 at 1:23 pm

One source was the Venona papers and another was the Mitrokhin archive.

My problem with what you call the “media and public hysteria” in the McCarthy era was that there was not nearly enough of it. The housecleaning should have been much more thorough, with ample use of stout hemp rope.

For the record, we are no fans of the Bush family or of their administrations, for many reasons – the Patriot Act being only one of them.

Islam is at war with us and will always be, simply because the Qur’an absolutely requires war upon unbelievers until the entire world is conquered. There is no room for discussion or dispute in that regard; the evidence is in the Qur’an, go read it yourself! The US government refuses to acknowledge and to name our enemy; thus the “war on terror” is all smoke and mirrors, and is in large part merely a cover for expanded government tyranny.

5 Uncle Vladdi June 14, 2013 at 1:39 pm

Liberals are totalitarian conformist group might makes right gangsters. Since they’ve got nothing beyond “Submit or Die!” they hate facts and will always shoot the messengers.

Liberals (and all other criminals) don’t ever really think – they only react and attack.

Once you’ve been proven factually wrong in public, you can no longer prove yourself right, so there’s only two possible responses left to you: admit it and thank your educator for enlightening you, or evasively try blustering to deflect attention from your mistakes, by distracting people with irrelevant examples of your accuser’s own mistakes, to attempt to “prove” them to be wrong, “too!” i.e: Blame your victims!

This is where people turn mistakes from mere negligence into criminal negligence, more or less by slanderously asserting: “Screw you! I meant to do that, because I knew you were gonna make me do it, so it’s all your fault! Whee!” Then they follow up with “There are no real crimes, because we all do it, too – even you make mistakes!” This is immoral relativism and the false ’emotion’ of subjective “jealousy!”

So, never having any facts which would ever agree with their perpetual irrationality, the left must always resort to the slanderous evasions known collectively as the critical thinking logical fallacies – the deflective ad-hominem personal attacks, the distractive strawman red-herrings, and of course the immoral relativist’s favorite, the tu quoque – i.e: “islam isn’t evil because we all do it too! Whee!” As if simply comparing many different categories of wrong, somehow made one of them into a right!

Isn’t it funny that people who actually have facts, rarely (if ever) seem to feel the need to indulge in fallacies?


Liberals are the real “haters;” they have to be remain angry in order to be able to continue to attack everyone else first all the time, or else they might risk getting attacked by someone else first anyway! So their perpetual slanders and critical thinking logical fallacies are part of their plan to implement their zero-sum pain or be pained, fear or be feared “defensively pre-emptive” victim-blaming criminal attacks! Capisce?

Lefty criminals are all libertines; they want rights without responsibilities; but, being infantile delinquent extortionists and criminal negligents, they have already given up their own rights to have rights, by abdicating their responsibility to actually earn those rights.

And, to gain and maintain the right to remain irresponsibly wrong, they must assert this:

“It’s an absolute fact that there are absolutely no absolute facts. Since there’s always such a complex diversity of causes and effects, we can never really know anything for sure, so all facts are really just opinions anyway. That means my subjective, fact-free opinions are the diversely opposite equals to any of these Conservatives’ silly objective facts! And remember, kids – there’s no wrong answers!”

Their main problem is that liberals hate personal responsibility, so they avoid it by selling endless group-rights victimology scenarios instead. That way the cowards can pretend to be champions without accusing any individual criminals of their crimes! For instance:

The muslim ideology is all about hate, revenge, intolerance, violence and lying to gain advantage over your enemy – it’s all about might-makes-right extortion, aka CRIME.

So why does it now always seem to be “illegal” to accuse these moslem criminals of their crimes, if doing so might hurt their feelings (and so “make” them commit even more crimes!)? Simply because:

Liberals are racists – they always assume that ONLY White, Western people (including, of course, the Jews in Israel,) are INTELLIGENT enough to be judged guilty of being truly evil, while all their pet “People Of Colour” (including, of course, the “swarthy palestinians,”) just can’t help being violent animals, the poor oppressed little dears, so they’ll always indulge their crimes, much as one ignores the new puppy as it pees on the rugs.



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