No Policing in Norway

Even before the Oslo and Utøya killings, it was painfully obvious that Norway lacked even the most rudimentary police and security forces. No attempt was being made to deal with violent crime, nor were the citizens allowed the means to defend themselves.

The nadir occurred just before Anders Behring Breivik went berserk, when a woman was raped on the steps of the Parliament building in Oslo.

And nothing was done about it.

Big Peace: Conquest through rape in Europe: Latest victim raped on steps of Parliament

Posted by Ned May Jul 22nd 2011 at 8:10 am
As reported previously, all the stranger rapes in Oslo over the past five years — when the perpetrators could be identified — were committed by Muslim immigrants, and almost all of the victims were indigenous Norwegians. This is an example of “conquest through rape”, which is has been a feature of the Islamic hijra all over the world ever since the 7th century.

This latest rape would seem to be just another in a long series — a 20-year-old Norwegian girl raped by a 15-year-old North African asylum-seeker in downtown Oslo. Ho-hum, dog bites man, right?

Well, not entirely. This particular atrocity occurred on the steps of the Norwegian parliament, facing the Castle. To make matters even worse, as the young culture-enricher worked his will on the victim, he was being observed live via a video surveillance camera by security guards inside the parliament building — who did not leave the building to help the young woman.

It seems that interrupting a rape on the front steps was not part of their job description — that task rightly belonged to the police, who unfortunately arrived too late to interrupt the crime.

Oh, and one more thing: the suspect was apprehended, but released from custody later in the day…

Read it all.

Celestial Junk: The Other Oslo Outrage

(h/t: Blazing Cat Fur)

Lost in all the justified outrage over the Oslo killings, is the missing “other” outrage.

How, in a first-world country which is one of the wealthiest in Europe, is it possible for 90 minutes to elapse between the time that scores of calls for help go out, and the police arrive? How, is it possible that SWAT can’t be deposited in place because its helicopter is not on standby, no boats are available, and none can be commandeered in a region that is dominated by “water” and “mountain”?…

Read the rest.

NYT: Unsettling Wariness in Norway, Where Police Are Rarely Armed

(h/t: Jawa)

OSLO – When a man dressed in a police uniform began slaughtering young people at a Norwegian summer camp last week, one of the first to be killed was a real police officer named Trond Berntsen, who for years had worked in security at the camp.

Whether Officer Berntsen tried to stop the gunman is still being debated. But facing a man carrying multiple guns and ample ammunition, there was little he could do. Like most other police officers here, he had no weapon.

By law, Norwegian police officers must have authorization from their chief to gain access to a firearm, but they have rarely needed to ask, until recently. Violent crime has been steadily increasing, jolting a society used to leaving doors unlocked and children to play without fear. Coupled with growing criticism over the police’s slow response time to the attacks and confusion about the death toll, which was lowered Monday to 76 from 93, there are growing questions about whether the police are equipped to deal with the challenges.

“Criminals are now carrying weapons, so some people now think that police officers should have weapons as well,” said Gry Jorunn Holmen, a spokeswoman for the Norwegian police union. Though she said it was too early to make any assessments, Ms. Holmen said the union had formed a commission to explore the issue. For the police, she said, “it’s getting tougher.”

It took police SWAT units more than an hour to reach the camp, on Utoya Island, after reports of the shooting came in. Officers had to drive to the shore across from the site of the shooting attack, and use boats to get to the island. A police helicopter was unable to get off the ground; news crews that reached the island by air could only watch as the gunman continued the massacre.
[…]
Officer Berntsen, 51, who was the stepbrother of Norway’s crown princess, was remembered in a service on Monday…

Read the rest.

Now what?

What do you suppose the Norwegians are doing to remedy their policing deficiencies? Have they changed their policy of requiring police to go unarmed? Are they budgeting any money for hiring more police, for training personnel, and for purchasing equipment such as weapons, vehicles, and communications networks? Are they working on plans for improving the physical security of vulnerable locations? Have they considered the possibility that an armed citizenry could have stopped Breivik before he got past the first victim – or might have deterred him from acting at all?

Well, in yet another nod to the all-important idols of diversity and tolerance, these descendants of the Vikings just got a new director of their National Police Directorate, namely Øystein Mæland. He was appointed in late May, 2011. You’re probably wondering what sort of experience he has with law enforcement or with national security.

Winds of Jihad: It’s a Family Affair!

Øystein Mæland, tapped late last week to be Norway’s new chief of police, is a psychiatrist and Labour Party veteran who’s held a long list of leadership roles both in and out of politics. He’s also married to a man and the couple is expecting their second child this fall, with the help of a surrogate mother in California…[Source]

I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried!

What’s an extremist, anyway?

Enough already with the word extremist being flung about like mud. It has become a universal pejorative for anybody who takes a stand on anything, for good or for ill. Whenever someone like Anders Behring Breivik runs amok and commits crimes, everybody starts blaming it on extremism.

As everybody knows, I’m as right-wing as a person can possibly be; I’m also too old to care what names anybody calls me. But others are much more subject to intimidation in that regard. It’s time to stop allowing the word extremist to be used as an all-purpose tool for squelching freedom of speech – especially for the counterjihad.

I suggest we all adopt a far more reasonable definition of extremist:

  • If you initiate violence in order to influence public policy – or if you advocate others doing so – you are an extremist.
  • Otherwise, you are not.

Crazy is not an ideology!

A Christian terrorist? Not so much

In his own words, Anders Behring Breivik made it clear that he is not a member of any church, he does not pray, and he does not possess any real faith in God. He supports Christianity only in the utilitarian, cultural sense as a tool for political ends. Christianity was not the motive for his actions, and the mainstream media is wrong to claim or to imply that it was.

Media reactions


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1 Angel July 27, 2011 at 9:55 am

phenomenal work u do here..God bless! thanks for the vis to WHT but plz don’t leave links in the comment field unless ya link back to WHT… b/c my spam filter will delete ya and I do not want that! ;-) keep up the righteous fight~!~

2 1389 July 27, 2011 at 10:09 am

Sorry about that…In the future – if I have an article that relates to something that you are covering on your blog, I’ll try to remember to email you the link. Thanks very much for your support!

3 been July 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm

He stated himself that he was a conservative christian on his facebook page. Perhaps it should be noted that he is more conservative AND christian. His sponsors in the freemason stated he was a christian, so he at least wanted to seem like one.

As for all your other statements, Norwegian police handled this well. The 90 minute response is wrong; it took 60 minutes for them to arrest this person. He chose his target exactly because it would take a long time to respond.

And what has the rape to do with anything? There’s more depth to it than that, and those who wrote that article is more interested in a point than to write a complete presentation of what happened.

Also, the police stated: “We choose the risk, because that’s the price of an open society” – This is something we stand behind, united.

And finally: Mæland has done a great job. It’s only old people and bigots who care about his private life.

What did USA do after their 9/11? Not “turn the other cheek”, but “either you’re with us, or you’re against us”. Norway did the first. Stop spreading these rumors and learn…

4 been July 27, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Also “HitlerJügend” – That’s tasteless, especially considering he himself has 9/12 summercamps for kids to learn conservative idealogy. Most countries has similiar political traditions, including Israel and USA, so it is a hostile and extremely degrading comparison towards the teenagers that were killed.

I prefer if you don’t agree with that; it’s not very christian to ridicule their memory like that.

5 been July 27, 2011 at 2:33 pm

“Hi. I am 13 years old and a norwegian muslim. I feel its my fault. He says he killed them because I am here. Should I move out to protect norwegian kids in the future? This is how I feel. Love Sophia.”
(From a childrens Q/A on a norwegian newspaper website)

6 Zilla July 27, 2011 at 5:30 pm

Freaking crazy! Great job putting this together, 1389! I’ve linked to it here:
Operation United Front

7 Robin July 27, 2011 at 7:53 pm

The policeman on Utøya was a privately-hired policeman that was there because of his authority to perform arrests. He was not sent from the police, but was privately hired. He was not there to protect the island from a well-armed mass-murderer, but to intervene if trouble was to break out among the youth. Thus he did not have the need, nor the permission, to be armed.

Police officers in Norway are unarmed, but can at extremely short notice arm themselves before leaving the station when called out. There has been no or extremely few cases over the past decades where the lack of armed police has been a problem. In fact, countries with armed police have experienced the opposite and very undesirable effect: that armed police leads to criminals that did not use to be armed, arming up.

And to make it clear – the police arriving at Utøya was heavily armed. That it took a long time to reach the island is a question on the mind of many, and no doubt this will be answered when that time comes.

However, normal people ask the question of why the police arrived late, and demand answers.

They don’t draw the lines like this blog – and blame it all on the new chief of police beeing gay.

This blog occationally, between the rasist crazytalk, ask important questions. However it answers the question with out-of-topic gibberish, in it’s attempt to intentionally mislead it’s readers.

How can the moderators of this blog do this with a clear conscience? If your ideas are correct, and if you believe in your fight, it should be possible for you to perform it with the facts in order and without the intent to mislead.

8 1389 July 27, 2011 at 9:25 pm

This is another shameful and manipulative use of children to create an emotional impact so as to influence public policy. The US media is full of pleas to enact some stupid and destructive law or policy because it is supposedly good “for the children.” It’s always a trap, and we’re wise to it by now.

“Sophia” is a CHRISTIAN name. This is just one reason that I believe that this letter was not written by a Muslim child, but by a leftist adult faking the identity of a child so as to draw unearned sympathy for his cause.

If it’s true that “Sophia” is, in fact, a 13 year old “Norwegian Muslim” (whatever that means), yes, I agree that this person AND her family should return whence they came. And not in order to protect Norwegian kids in the future, but to protect what is left of Norwegian and European civil society now. Because of the nature of Islamic doctrine, no government of any non-Muslim country has any business allowing any Muslim immigration whatsoever. If they do, they are indeed traitors to their own people.

It was not Breivik’s assessment of the Muslim threat to European society that was wrong – it was only his methods, which we at 1389 Blog reject. We do not advocate or condone the initiation of violence as a means of influencing public policy.

It seems that the Muslims have already used violence as a means of intimidating public officials all over the world to acquiesce to Muslim demands, in return for a very illusory and temporary peace. Whenever it succeeds, they up the ante with more violence and more demands. It’s time we started being concerned about THAT, not about a single recent instance involving a crazy man who went berserk.

9 1389 July 27, 2011 at 9:38 pm

I am not ridiculing the memory of the youths who were at the camp. I am quoting Glenn Beck’s statement about the camp itself. It was wrong to send these young people to a camp that teaches animosity to Israel and the Jews – who have NEVER done any harm to the nation and people of Norway. Beck – and I – were criticizing not the youths, but the camp itself, and we were not using ridicule.

10 1389 July 27, 2011 at 9:54 pm

The rape shows that nothing was being done to confront violent crime, especially crime committed by Muslim immigrants. Are you sure that the women who are being raped really want to “choose the risk, because that’s the prize of an open society”? Do you really want to lay your whole society completely open to alien predators to abuse you in any way they please, with impunity? Even if MOST of your citizens want this, it is wrong nonetheless, because those among your citizenry who do NOT want to be preyed upon in this manner will nonetheless be victimized.

An individual may be well advised to turn the other cheek, but that tactic works to calm the situation between individuals, in a country when the mores and customs of civil society are still in place, as was the case in Israel at that time. It applied only to an insult – a slap in the face – not to something more serious, such as rape.

A government has the duty to keep order, to apprehend criminals so as to deter crime, and to repel foreign invaders. Evidently, the government of Norway has abdicated its duty to do those things, and has instead invited dangerous foreign invaders to settle on its territory. While I do not condone Breivik’s methods, the government of Norway has failed in its duty to protect its citizens, and until that changes, there will be more disasters.

11 been July 27, 2011 at 10:52 pm

“Never done harm?”

Mossad did kill a norwegian citizen in 1973, did not admit, but paid, and never said sorry. (Lillehammer-affair) And they have repeatedly ignored UN resolutions that Norway support. However we have never done anything against Israel that is illegal.

Second, Boycotts is a democratic legal non-violent tool. This is no excuse to think of any less of these youth. And no excuse to call them hitlerjugend. It’s a legal tactic, and this is a democracy. Note that AUF is for a boycott, while the mother party is against…

And last the irony seems not to be lost on you. I have warned against the rising xenophobia, racism and vitriol against immigrants (which was trendy fifteen years ago) and muslims (which is trendy now). Nobody believed me that this was a huge danger.

Now we finally get a major terrorist attack in Norway (the previous bomb was by a neo-nazi too, in the 80s I believe). And people are _still_ blaming the muslims.

There are only 60000 muslims in Norway, and they are very orderly and integrate well. We have so many other issues in the world, but islam is one that has been hyped to this degree that people can’t think of anything else.

My biggest concern is their homophobia, but that is hardly a muslim-only problem.

Muslim immigrants are smaller in the statistics than asian and african (non-muslim) immigrants. So why this obsession? There are real issues here, but they drown in misguided assumptions! So please, that anecdote… I checked rapestatistics, and middle-easterns are no bigger than africans or asians. The report states there’s no religious trend.
https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf

It’s like we’re designing a plane, and you’re still bickering about the color of plane. It’s easy to have an opinion about the color, so that’s why everyone talk about it. But when I bring up Dublin-Treaty as one of the big causes for immigrant criminality, then everyone is silent…

There are people being firebombed in Europe now, and it’s muslims. There are people being threatened to be put in camps, and in some degree are, and it is muslims.

Breivik is completely deluded, and so are every one of these Eurabia nuts. They share similarities with UFO-nuts, except their readership is a lot more dangerous.

Oh, and deter crime. Have any of you done anything to deter right-wing extremism terrorism? I think the Norwegian police did a good job, all things considered. They would have done a better job if they weren’t distracted by anti-muslims. We already know that there are more organized right wing extremists (thousands) in Norway than extremist muslims (a dozen).

12 Angel July 27, 2011 at 11:24 pm

thanks again for your amazing efforts here..God bless ~! :mrgreen:

13 no2liberals July 28, 2011 at 12:09 am

More Guns, Less Crime Again.

Gun Ownership Rises to All-Time High,
Violent Crime Falls to 35-Year Low.

Coinciding with a surge in gun purchases that began shortly before the 2008 elections, violent crime decreased six percent between 2008 and 2009, including an eight percent decrease in murder and a nine percent decrease in robbery. Since 1991, when violent crime peaked, it has decreased 43 percent to a 35-year low. Murder has fallen 49 percent to a 45-year low. At the same time, the number of guns that Americans own has risen by about 90 million. Predictions by gun control supporters, that increasing the number of guns, particularly handguns and so-called “assault weapons,” would cause crime to increase, have been proven profoundly lacking in clairvoyance.

The problem with countries like Norway is the abdication of personal responsibility by its citizens.
Instead of just blaming a feckless government and its police, the citizens should not only demand better from them, they should demand their right to self defense.
As for putting a PC political insider as chief of police, instead of an experienced law enforcement officer, is only one indication of the lack of seriousness the citizens view their public safety.
Not only do the police need to be as well armed or better than any criminal element they encounter, they should be better trained with their weapons and tactics.
The security guards doing nothing about a young woman being raped in their presence, because it wasn’t in their job description, is disgusting and indefensible.

14 Hesperado July 28, 2011 at 12:39 am

1389,

That last comment of yours was EXCELLENT! :!:

15 Stavanger July 28, 2011 at 1:51 am

Uff da!

Most recent 1389 comment right on teh money as you say.

16 been July 28, 2011 at 3:41 am

I fail to see what’s great. People are arrested for rapes. Assault rapes are below average in scandinavia. Arrests for assault rapes are low, and they are not exclusively done by muslims.

Of course one should arrest people who do rapes, but as I pointed out. It is an anecdote that is not representative for our society and the statistics. It works better as a story on why CCTV does not increase safety (Per a study on CCTV in London), and is used as a abusive tool against people who look strange (per a study on CCTV in Oslo City).

If our tactic didn’t work there would be more criminality in Norway (it’s not much). You state it is done by muslims (No study supports that). And why do you assume the rapist was a muslim?

You have failed to present justify your arguments with solid facts and just _assume_ that Islam has anything to do with youth immigration criminality when there are compeltely different and more complex mechanisms.

If we don’t allow access of muslims to norway, there would be the same amount of criminality done by immigrant youths. Same amount of rapes. So your stupid anecdote doesn’t support your argument.

Also, most terrorist groups was dissolved by political actions. Military force worked for exceptionally few. This should be something you knew if you’re interested in counterterrorism.

17 Ralph Lynn July 28, 2011 at 5:47 am

been

I am sure it is only a tiny minority of anti islam bloggers, nationalists, right wingers and conservatives who are violent extremists. It would not do to tar everyone because of the actions of the few (and that’s VERY few).

18 been July 28, 2011 at 11:49 pm

Hi Ralph – I wish that was true.

But every person who condones idea as above verifiable facts – and knowingly participate in distribution of such ideas – are participating in an evil greater than themselves.

Sorry for such prose, but creating hatred towards a group of people is serious stuff. These ideas kills people.

19 Hesperado July 30, 2011 at 12:46 am

Unfortunately for the anti-Islam movement (AIM), the evidence for this particular issue is inconclusive. This just shows how badly the AIM needs professional paid assistance in getting its facts and stats together in a comprehensive and definitive Anti-Islam Manual.

Otherwise, we will be spinning our wheels in blogs for decades more to come.

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