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There is much more to the story behind the widely-hyped coverage of the Murdoch/News of the World phone-hacking scandal.

The real story is all about who owns the gatekeepers to the world of information: the excessive concentration of ownership of the major media and entertainment outlets, even the supposedly “conservative” ones. It’s also about what YOU can do to make an end-run around those self-ordained gatekeepers to get your message across.

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Short Little Rebel: Who Is Rupert Murdoch & Who Controls The News?

I began this article to address the growing scandal in England over media mogul Rupert Murdoch’s News of the World Newspaper. This English tabloid, its managers, reporters, private investigators & even the London Police have been embroiled in a phone tapping scandal that began in 2006 when police investigations discovered that Prince William’s private phone messages had been hacked by the newspaper. One editor & one private investigator were convicted in 2007 and jailed in the incident. But the allegations & investigation are far from over. Only days ago, new allegations against the paper claim that it also tapped into two murder victims’ home phone messages (deleting some) in 2002, the private home messages of victims of London’s 7/7 attacks and even the home messages of dead soldiers’ families’ home messages.

This is news in and of itself. However, as I investigated the matter further, I couldn’t help but come across Rupert Murdoch’s larger story - the story of a multi-billionaire who ‘owns’ one of the largest news organizations (including Fox & its affiliates) in the world:News Corp.Sources have it that Murdoch’s News Corp. reaches about 1/4 of the earth’s population. Allegations, some of which is confirmed by Murdoch himself, say that he uses his organizations to reflect his own personal political agendas.In some years, he has supported Hillary Clinton & Barak Obama in the United States and Tony Blair in England – all leftist politicians. Other years, he has supported conservative individuals such as Bush and David Cameron of England. The Sun, one of Murdoch’s English papers, crowed its success in swinging a critical election in England. Murdoch himself is on tape bragging about how he ‘tried’ to affect certain elections and failed.

I disagree with Short Little Rebel on this one matter: GWB (and, indeed, the entire Bush family) and David Cameron are not conservative, but center-left.

Many political figures of today represent themselves as conservatives, but any reporter from 1910 would have recognized them all as flat-out Bolsheviks, as do I. (If you have any doubts, please review the list of recommended policies in the Communist Manifesto.)

Astounded that one man could control so much information, I was led to wonder, “Who owns the rest of the news media?”There are six top news media outlets:  GE who owns NBC, MSNBC & TeleMundo; News Corp which owns FOX, the Wall Street Journal & the N.Y. Post; Walt Disney (again, who knew?) which owns ABC; Viacom, whose only news venture appears to the an Indian media company, Global Broadcast; CBS; and finally, Time Warner which owns CNN. I researched the stock market to see who owned them. While each has individuals, like Rupert Murdoch, who own large stakes, it is the institutions which own the lion’s share. As I looked through these institutions, I saw an eerie pattern of ownership emerge. I have provided links for your information. Do you see the same pattern I saw?

Seeing the patterns, I decided to create a series of charts which would track what news outlets each of these institutions controlled.
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The results left me speechless. ALL of the news media are PRIVATELY owned by six or so families and/or groups: the oldest & the richest of all people. Both the liberal & conservative press belongs to them. They share ownership equally. The scheme they have used to purchase ALL the news media outlets is disgusting, people of America. While it took me an entire day of intensive research through the stock exchanges, it wasn’t that difficult to re-engineer the information and backtrack the ownership to a tiny number of people. When I looked at my final charts, I wasn’t sure what disgusted me more – the fact that they don’t even bother to really hide the information or the information itself…

Read the rest and view the charts!

No, Fox News is not a conservative news network!

Fox News has never even claimed to be conservative. Of course, I can see why Fox News might seem conservative, compared to the hard-left “alphabet” networks, New York Times, Washington Post, and the supposedly “independent” wire services. But then, the vulgar propaganda/infotainment spewed by the mainstream networks belongs in the same category with the Soviet-era Pravda, or perhaps the English-language version of al-Jazeera. It doesn’t take much to seem “conservative” compared to that.

And Fox News certainly isn’t getting any better these days. While Glenn Beck was right about many things, he was completely mistaken about a few other things (which I won’t go into here). He certainly wasn’t perfect, though, on the whole, he did much more good than harm, and I certainly miss his presence on Fox News. He was spot on with regard to George Soros and with regard to the Caliphate.

At this point, conservatives looking for network news coverage do not yet have anywhere else to go besides Fox News. Arguably, it’s better than nothing, but not by much!

It would not be going too far to say that Fox News has lost whatever punch it once had, simply because it has become the target of outright blackmail:

PJM: The MSM’s ‘Media Matters’ Blackout

The MSM is enjoying a very quiet laugh at the expense of one of their competitors: the Fox News Channel. They’re not saying a word about the all-encompassing, possibly illegal abuse Fox News is experiencing at the hands of the George Soros-funded (to the tune of $1M) Media Matters for America.

Media Matters was co-founded by current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, something which she proudly proclaims. Her fellow founder is David Brock, the fallen conservative journalist who thereafter drifted leftward. Media Matters is an alleged media “monitor,” describing itself on its website thusly:

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation (emphasis mine).

Around March of this year, Brock announced Media Matters was dramatically diminishing said “cross section” by openly declaring “war on Fox.” (The official announcement came just after Soros’ $1M check cleared.) The above link is to the only mainstream outlet I could find that mentions this story.

Brock says Media Matters will hound Fox News with “guerrilla warfare and sabotage.” For instance:

Media Matters, Brock said, is assembling opposition research files not only on Fox’s top executives but on a series of midlevel officials. It has hired an activist who has led a successful campaign to press advertisers to avoid Glenn Beck’s show. The group is assembling a legal team to help people who have clashed with Fox to file lawsuits for defamation, invasion of privacy, or other causes. And it has hired two experienced reporters, Joe Strupp and Alexander Zaitchik, to dig into Fox’s operation to help assemble a book on the network, due out in 2012 from Vintage/Anchor.

This isn’t “media analysis.” This is a multi-million dollar leftist PR hit squad. Brock is doing all of this because he claims Fox News has become the titular head of the Republican Party.

And herein lies a legal problem for Media Matters.

Media Matters is registered with the Internal Revenue Service as a 501(c)3 organization. Esteemed attorney C. Boyden Grey explains what that means

More here.

The sad part is that Fox News has apparently capitulated to this pressure by swinging more and more to the left. Instead, they should be going after Media Matters, and everyone associated with it, with everything they’ve got. But considering their ownership, it is easy to see why they are capitulating.

Oh, and by the way, Fox Detroit seems to have capitulated to the leftist powers-that-be in much the same way: Big Journalism: Fox Detroit Apologizes for Exposing Big Labor.

What about the blogosphere and other “alternative media”?

Well, that depends. As with Fox News, the problem with many of the “bigger” non-liberal blogs, websites, and news forums is that after awhile, the people who run them tend to lose their moxie. They become afraid of losing advertisers; no longer being invited to meet prominent figures; antagonizing stockholders, owners, or financial backers (especially those with Islamic or other foreign ties); or being censored in other ways. Some people are also, by nature, afraid of confrontation, especially when it involves expressing disagreement with their friends and colleagues, or with associates whom they thought were friends.

So these high-profile bloggers and admins begin to pull their punches:

  • They practice self-censorship about acceptable topics for news coverage, and how those topics should be addressed – especially when it comes to the counterjihad.
  • In place of hard news and controversy, they draw traffic with eye candy and “fluff”.
  • They may continue to copy and paste relevant material from, or publish links to, various news sources, but they refuse to draw the obvious conclusions from those news stories, or to allow their commenters to draw any conclusions that might make someone uncomfortable.
  • They avoid everything that might draw unwanted attention from some governmental body, pressure group, or even other bloggers and commenters.

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Self-censorship is boooooring…

If you really want to see the full range of topics for news coverage and debate, you’ll have to visit some of the “smaller” blogs too. Yes, you’ll have to use your own judgment about the quality of news and the validity of opinion on each blog, but then, you should be doing that with ALL sources of information!

Get involved!

“Alternative media” is INTERACTIVE media. You don’t have to just sit there and listen and be spoon-fed. It’s YOUR job to help report the facts as you see them, wherever you happen to be. You can start your own blog if you like, but you can also comment on existing websites or blogs, or you can join a team blog or forum. You can also use other social media, such as Twitter and Facebook, as well as face-to-face contacts, to promote worthwhile blog posts and news articles to everyone you know.

On 1389 Blog, the admins, team members, contributors, and commenters are all volunteers. We abide by certain rules (stated in the comment policy) so it isn’t a free-for-all, but we cover stories and views that the bigger blogs won’t talk about. Most of us blog and comment under our screen names – it isn’t about promoting ourselves, it’s all about the message. And at this point, we don’t sell ads, and we have no plans to do so in the future, so we don’t have to worry about losing a source of revenue. Comments are moderated, but we make a point of putting comments through in a timely manner.

Much the same is true of 2.0: The Blogmocracy, which is a team blog/forum. I’m one of the contributors there also. You’ll have to register to comment there, but registration is free, it is ALWAYS OPEN, and takes just a minute. Comments are posted immediately. Guest bloggers are welcome. There’s also a regular call-in radio show. Consider this an invitation!

There are many other good “smaller” and/or noncommercial blogs like these – which is why 1389 Blog posts so many links in the sidebar.

Also see:

  • PJM: How Network News Helped Bring About the Crash

    When we seek out the causes and culprits of our current economic crisis, there is one area in need of reform that should not be overlooked: the mainstream news media. It is not too much to say that the people in the NBC, ABC and CBS news operations were major contributing factors to the crash of 2008 and are helping to pave the way to future economic troubles now.

    In the book Reckless Endangerment: How Outsized Ambition, Greed, and Corruption Led to Economic Armageddon, authors Gretchen Morgenson and Joshua Rosner tell how, in the early nineties, faulty or skewed studies by ACORN and other groups fed the idea that there was pervasive racial bias by mortgage lenders, with blacks and Hispanics being unfairly rejected for loans. “The findings lit up the media, confirming many people’s suspicions about banks’ lending practices,” the authors write of one such study. In fact, properly interpreted, the data suggested that banks were making their loans not on the basis of race but on the basis of credit-worthiness. But as the misinformation confirmed left-wing ideas, the media pressure was on for a government fix…

  • PJM: Alternative Media is Today’s Free Press

    On their own initiative, Americans are cutting through the trivia and the propaganda
    […]
    Rather than acting as an agent of protection against an intrusive government, today’s mainstream media — or big media, as I call it — seeks at best merely to entertain us. At worst, it has become an unofficial agent of the state, acting almost exclusively on its behalf.

    Whether or not big media intends to promote the government is irrelevant, for the net effect exists regardless. The point is that it has defied the system as it was designed, begetting a serious problem.

    Fortunately, even those who torment us cannot defy the natural order of things, so again we find the rules of cause and effect at work. As man, in his natural state, seeks to be free and resists the authoritarian nature of the state, inevitably alternative media was born…

  • Blogmocracy: The Saudi Money at News Corp/Fox News Speaks Up

    Just wondering out loud…It would be interesting to know if the Saudis have any control on what goes on in the US arm of News Corp/Fox News…

  • Review of “Page One: Inside the New York Times”
    (h/t: Blazing Cat Fur)

    In the weeks before the release of the documentary Page One, New York Times columnist David Carr, the film’s unofficial star, attracted a bit of publicity by appearing on Bill Maher’s HBO talk show, where he called the residents of America’s “middle places” – the “red” states, and Kansas and Missouri in particular – participants in what he called “the dance of the low sloping foreheads.” He was responding to Maher’s assertion that these are not America’s “smart states,” and allowed himself a bemused, self-satisfied smile as he basked in audience approval after his observation, doubling down on the gibe by coyly adding “Did I just say that aloud?”…


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1 Short Little Rebel July 19, 2011 at 7:18 pm

hey! Thanks for the repost! I agree that FOX is not a conservative site- especially the morning news programs. But it has a more conservative slant than others. It does have conservative talk shows like Hannity & Laura Ingram. I couldn’t believe that Glenn Beck was literally kicked off the network regardless of his ratings. I didn’t always like watching him (I always got depressed afterward), but he was RIGHT most of the time.

I won’t include Bill O’Reilly because he has become tame in just the way you describe. I have thought about using my blog for advertising- you know, to make a few dollars. But then I realized that I would suddenly be shackled by the advertisers. So, I remain poor for awhile.

I have made a call to conservative bloggers. We need to use the last free news source: the Internet to fight Lieberman’s new bill to give Obama FULL control of the internet for 30 days- without needing to justify his actions to ANYONE. It is on the floor now. We need to scream like hell across the Internet to stop it. We need to twitter & FB to all our Republicans to STOP it. Otherwise, they will all get fired. This will be the last straw.

As long as we retain the Internet, we can create a unified grass roots movement to inform the public about how their constitutional rights are very rapidly being stolen. If America doesn’t wake up soon, it will cease to be America. Overnight.

2 1389 July 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm

If you want to go ahead and write a post on that bill, go right ahead and I’ll mirror it and submit it to Blogmocracy.

Lieberman is a real piece of work.

He masquerades as a conservative but he was one of the major forces in getting the US to side with the Muslims in the Balkans. As those who have read 1389 Blog, or for that matter Blogmocracy, already know, that has not turned out well at all.

And check THIS out: Exclusive: Prominent Rabbi Says Lieberman was Excommunicated and it is Still in Effect

NEW YORK, August 28, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Eight years ago when Al Gore selected then-Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman as his Vice Presidential running mate, an Orthodox Jewish Rabbinical court formally excommunicated Lieberman over his stands on partial birth abortion and homosexuality. The excommunication is said to stand to this day.

Rabbi Yehuda Levin spokesman for the Rabbinical Alliance of America and the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the U.S. and Canada, organizations representing over 1000 Orthodox Rabbis, told LifeSiteNews.com today that the excommunication is still in effect as Lieberman is in the final running as a potential VP pick for Senator McCain.

In October 2000, the New York Torah Court stated that Lieberman caused “grave scandal” for the Jewish religion “by the fact that, while claiming to be an observant Jew, [he] has been misrepresenting and falsifying to the American people the teachings of the Torah against partial birth infanticide, against special privileges and preferential treatment for flaunting homosexuals, and against religious intermarriage of Jews.”

3 ER July 20, 2011 at 9:27 am

From Sunlight Foundation link:
“The biggest all-time recipient of contributions from News Corp is President Obama”
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2011/07/19/murdochs-influence-extends-to-u-s-global-politics/

4 Hesperado July 20, 2011 at 9:52 am

Concerning “high-profile bloggers and admins”, the writer (I think its the original poster, Short Little Rebel (SLR)) writes that they “begin to pull their punches”.

SLR then goes on to describe what is meant by this:

“They practice self-censorship about acceptable topics for news coverage, and how those topics should be addressed – especially when it comes to the counterjihad.”

First of all, while I agree that there are certain (cough, cough) Big Bloggers in the CJ (or as I’d rather call it, the AIM) who seem to be self-censoring, it’s difficult to tell whether they are censoring themselves about Islam, or whether they really are sincerely soft about certain aspects of the problem of Islam. (I analyzed this in great detail in dozens of lengthy essays on my now retired blog Jihad Watch Watch about one particular Big Fish in the Blogosphere, and came to no conclusion about whether or not Spencer is really soft on Islam, or is timidly softening his stance.) Plus there is Spencer and Geller’s gingerly timidity with regard to being tainted by “fascist” cooties, as when they distance themselves from Vlaams Belang and more recently the EDL.

“In place of hard news and controversy, they draw traffic with eye candy and “fluff”.”

I can’t think of any example of this except one — Debbie Schlussel (and perhaps to a lesser extent Michelle Malkin and Lawrence Auster); but with Schlussel, I don’t think she’s consciously doing this, as SLR implies, but is merely following her own eccentric, eclectic tastes: apparently, she’s interested in reviewing the latest movies and other pop culture stuff. I see no indication that these diverting interests of hers are not sincere (even if they are, nevertheless, “fluffy” blog candy). With Malkin and Auster, we have the problem of bloggers who seem genuinely preoccupied with issues other than the problem of Islam — which is fine, I guess. But Malkin’s articles about the “debt ceiling” or “Obamacare” and such Beltway issues far outnumbers her articles about the problem of Islam; meanwhile Auster still seems feverishly intent on blogging about everything under the sun including the kitchen sink — and when a story like Weiner’s weener broke, he posted an insane amount of posts about it. Auster still does rather regularly advert to the problem of Islam, but one gets the impression with him (as with Gates of Vienna and even, I sometimes think, this blog here of which I have been graciously invited to be a team member) that there is larger “Real Problem” out there — basically the Disease of Modern Western Culture — of which the problem of Islam is merely one facet. This viewpoint (with which I strenuously disagree) reminds me of the way the popular juggernaut TV show “24″ devolved from its hopeful first season: For once, it looked like we finally had a TV show actually depicting Muslims plotting terrorist attacks inside the US for Islamic reasons. But as the plot arc unfolded over Season One (and Two, and Three), it became clear that the Muslims who were involved were just PAWNS in a larger more sinister globalist chess game among Evil White Corporations and Government Politicians.

“They may continue to copy and paste relevant material from, or publish links to, various news sources, but they refuse to draw the obvious conclusions from those news stories, or to allow their commenters to draw any conclusions that might make someone uncomfortable.”

This is a dicey criticism, and involves subjective definitions of what constitutes “obvious conclusions” as well as “conclusions that might make someone uncomfortable”. If by the latter is meant conclusion that Jews are manipulating the world in nefarious ways and are principally responsible for the Leftism that is supposedly controlling Western sociopolitics, then it’s a dubious complaint. Nevertheless, I believe in utmost freedom of expression, and if I had a blog as big as Gates of Vienna (or Jihad Watch or Malkin’s), I wouldn’t censor antisemitic comments per se, even though I oppose them. As for the former, I have had numerous differences with Spencer about certain “obvious conclusions” he refuses to draw from the mountain of evidence he publishes about Islam. For example, he refuses to say he is “anti-Islam” (let alone — Allah forbid! — that he is “anti-Muslim”), and yet he continues to pile on a mountain of data about how evil and dangerous Islam is, generating an increasingly absurd paradox over the years. Again, I went through this in exhaustive, and exhausting, detail on my now retired blog Jihad Watch Watch.)

5 Zilla July 20, 2011 at 10:00 am

Great minds DO think alike! You are totally right about how the bigger outlets censor themselves (ESPECIALLY over islam), which is why they are losing readers while those who aren’t afraid that someone will be ‘offended’ and are more concerned with informing people are GAINING readers. People will go to places for things that they can’t find elsewhere. The free market is alive & well in the “little blogs” blogosphere. :smile:

6 1389 July 20, 2011 at 12:41 pm

Let me try to answer your questions. First of all, the quotation “They practice self-censorship about acceptable topics for news coverage, and how those topics should be addressed – especially when it comes to the counterjihad.” was my writing.

When it comes to topics that other people won’t cover in the blogosphere, look at how few bloggers will mention the fact that the US and NATO fought on the side of the jihadis (affiliated with al Qaeda and OBL, no less) in the Balkans to persecute and slaughter the Christian Serbs. The truth is coming out very, very slowly. Many people will acknowledge privately that the US government and the media lied about the Serbs and that we fought on the wrong side in the Balkans. But who is coming out to demand that Kosovo be returned to Serbian control? Even the Serbs themselves in the 1990s never demanded that Muslims be expelled from historically-Serbian territory. They were accused of trying to expel Muslims from Kosovo, even though they had not done so. In my opinion, considering the fact that Kosovo was the birthplace of the Serbian nation and people, and considering the fact that the enemies of the Serbs over the years had invited Albanian Muslims into Kosovo to expropriate and slaughter and drive out the Serbs, I contend that the Serbs have every right to demand that all Muslims in Kosovo be repatriated to Albania (or wherever else they came from) and that Kosovo be under permanent Serbian control. Who else besides me will come out and say that?

Here is an example of what I mean by refusing to draw “obvious conclusions”: Followers of Islam are enemy aliens by definition – according to Islamic doctrine as stated in the Qur’an – and belief in Islam is incompatible with the oath of citizenship in any non-Muslim country. The logical conclusion is that Muslims have no place in any non-Muslim country, in any capacity. Not even as diplomats!

While some bloggers are ready to talk about decreasing the rate of Muslim immigration, practically nobody is willing to say that Muslim immigration should be stopped entirely, with absolutely no exceptions whatsoever. But I say that. No blogger other than myself, as far as I know, is willing to say that Muslims already here should be repatriated immediately and without exception – even those Muslims who have already obtained US citizenship (or citizenship in whatever non-Muslim countries they happen to be in). I would even go so far as to say that any native-born American who recites the Shahada should be considered a stateless person, on the grounds that embracing Islam is tantamount to renouncing American citizenship.

Yes, other people would call that extreme position, but it is the logical conclusion that I must draw from the nature of Islam itself, by its own definition in the Qur’an. Just TRY stating that on any other blog but this one!

Finally, let me make it clear that, by “obvious conclusions,” I was not, repeat NOT, talking about any conclusions “that Jews are manipulating the world in nefarious ways and are principally responsible for the Leftism that is supposedly controlling Western sociopolitics” – I am certain that this particular conclusion is false.

Leftism in its modern form began as a Jacobin movement, not Jewish at all. While some people with Jewish ancestry (though usually not observant Jews) have been part of the leftist movement over the years, even in some high-profile roles, they have not been predominant, and are not primarily responsible for its spread. Dictators of socialist or communist countries neither have practiced the Jewish faith, nor have any of them acknowledged Jewish ancestry, as far as I know. Communism and socialism are secular ideologies that respect neither religion nor ethnic heritage; no wonder why so many Jews were eager to leave the former Soviet Union. I would say that the largest share of the blame for spreading socialism in the US belongs to FDR, who was certainly no friend of the Jews.

By the way, I have some Jewish relatives. For that and many other reasons, you won’t hear me blaming Jews for whatever has gone wrong in the world. I never meant any such thing, nor did I intend to imply or insinuate it. CzechRebel and I do not allow any anti-Semitic comments or articles on this blog.

I hope that this clears up any confusion about what I meant!

I do admit that I indulge in a weekly “eye candy and fluff” post; namely, Caturday. A steady diet of counterjihad hard news can get to be depressing, and Caturday helps to lighten things up. But the rest of the time, we try to stay on point. I agree with you that we need to stay focused on the real problem of Islam, and to tackle that problem with everything we’ve got. I’m glad you are willing to be on the 1389 Blog team, and I hope that you won’t be disappointed with this blog.

7 Hesperado July 20, 2011 at 12:55 pm

Thanks 1389.

Knowing now that you wrote that interlinear commentary, I already know you wouldn’t imply anything antisemitic.

As for advocating robust measures of reversing immigration — you can count me in as at least matching you, if not going further. I’ve a few times on my blog advocated total deportation of all Muslims, no ifs ands or buts.

Main example: An Iron Veil.
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2009/05/iron-veil.html

P.S.: Amusingly, Lawrence Auster, who criticizes other bloggers for being limp-wristed about Muslim immigration, told me he was uncomfortable with my “totalistic” language, and added that whatever measures we take against Muslim should be accomplished “without violating their dignity and essence as Muslims” (!).

8 Hesperado July 20, 2011 at 11:34 pm

1389,

Even if I may disagree with certain strategic or philosophical aspects of this blog, I very much appreciate and enjoy this blog. After all, in my opinion, GOV is much more heavy-handed about what I consider to be an excessively conspiracy-oriented view, but that wasn’t why I became disenchanted with it and no longer comment there: it was simply because Baron Bodissey and Dymphna kept making veiled threats about censoring and/or banning me for my content, which frankly p**sed me off, since I made every effort to write relatively mature and intelligent comments. Baron and Dymphna are just too hypersensitive for my taste, and it imbues the atmosphere there with a chilling effect for comment discussion. Nevertheless, the blog itself remains, in my view, of great value to the anti-Islam effort.

Here, I am grateful to be a team member, and I continue to be amazed at how industrious you and your colleagues here are. I am one of those who believes firmly that all this varied effort we anti-Islam bloggers are doing — whether we are small or large, obscure or Interfamous (notwithstanding some of the critiques of some of the “big” ones noted in this article above), is slowly but surely laying the groundwork for real pragmatic effect in the decades ahead.

Muslims have known this for centuries — that every little step, every little gesture you take and do for the cause, contributes to the ultimate goal, even if at the time it seems so minute and partial as to be insignificant.

9 1389 July 20, 2011 at 11:52 pm

I appreciate that!

However, there won’t be any blogging from me tonight, that’s for sure. I got sick at work, started feeling nauseated and faint, and my husband had to come back and take me to our doctor right away. The doc did a CBC and then said I had some bacterial infection, evidently in my stomach. He said that it had been going around, gave me antibiotics, and warned me that I was contagious and had to stay inside and rest for 3 days. I keep thinking I should be using the time cleaning up the motorhome or writing blog posts, but I don’t feel well enough to do either one. So I’m just reading a bunch of stuff and commenting here and there. I’m even finding that pretty tiring because my eyes are all puffy. Hopefully I’ll get to sleep later on.

10 Hesperado July 21, 2011 at 1:24 am

Sorry to hear that, 1389. I hope you get well soon.

If you’re still wanting to read stuff, you can check out this lively debate I’m having about Islam with the PC MCs over at that new forum I discovered, SciForums.com (though on the other hand, reading their defenses of Muslims may make you feel worse… :???: )

Two areas there where this is going on:

“Your War on Terror: The Terrorists are Winning” (my contributions don’t begin until about page 4 or 5 out of the 7 pages there)
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=98969

“US Casualties in Afghanistan up 500% under Obama”
(this one is 3 pages, I come in at page 2 and continue)
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=108567

11 1389 July 21, 2011 at 2:14 pm

:lol: That’s another example of why I don’t run a forum! True, you reach some people that you would not otherwise encounter. The downside is that it takes an awful lot of time and patience to respond to all of those people. Let’s face it, presenting the same basic facts and arguments again and again, to one completely uninformed (or sadly misinformed) commenter after another, gets tiresome after awhile. Some of the people you see on forums are real dolts, too. I’d rather we spend our time blogging some good articles and let other people use those as ammunition when they need the facts.

I seldom listen to any kind of radio any more, but years ago, when I did, I frequently listened to Rush. He was right about the Serbs, by the way. At least back then, Rush used to spend a lot of time debating with liberal callers. He was a lot more patient with them than I would have been!

Put it this way…there’s a reason why there are (or at least, there used to be) debating teams with formal rules that everybody must follow. Liberals don’t believe in that, because they can’t win that way. Liberals scream, lie, interrupt, call names, use filthy language, and pull every trick in the book rather than admit that they have been truly and justly defeated. If they tried that in a formal debate, the sergeant at arms would escort them out!

12 Hesperado July 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

1389,

“Let’s face it, presenting the same basic facts and arguments again and again, to one completely uninformed (or sadly misinformed) commenter after another, gets tiresome after awhile.”

Very tiresome. I don’t really have the stamina to do it on a regular basis. One thing that should be tried, which I may do some day, is to use such debates as science experiments: consider the PC MC to be a kind of insect or virus, and during the various back-and-forth questions and answers, one studies their responses in a clinical way. Since they more or less follow a script — but a rather complicated one — they are predictable, but it would take time to get the pattern all down. Once we do that, we have a template for all debates with non-Muslim PC MC Islam apologists.

And once we have the template laid out, we can construct the optimal counter-template.

But as I see it, no one in the CJ has really tried to do this. Instead, we have a multitude of different approaches, all mostly just continuing to react to the PC MCs. Many of us are very good and knowledgeable (like Spencer, etc.), but we need to hone our presentation into a more precise focus. This is difficult because there are so many points to expose, points to defend, points to counter-argue — and all those various clusters of points form interlocking moveable tectonic plates that have to be kept in mind, else the PC MC (and his friend, the Muslim Apologist) gets away with tap-dancing distractions.

A definitive Anti-Islam Manual would solve this problem once and for all. But to create one would require our “big shots” to use their influence to raise money to pay for it, because it would take hundreds of man-hours from a whole team of people who shouldn’t expect to do such work for free (some of whom, furthermore, would have to be academic experts in certain fields, not just amateur Googlers).

“I seldom listen to any kind of radio any more, but years ago, when I did, I frequently listened to Rush. He was right about the Serbs, by the way.”

I didn’t realize Rush was pro-Serb. Good for him.

13 Smokey July 28, 2011 at 5:49 am

You should add http://wattsupwiththat.com to your blog roll. It fights the UN’s attempt to tax “carbon” [by which the scientific illiterati mean carbon dioxide, a minuscule trace gas].

WattsUpWithThat won the Weblog Awards for “Best Science” site two years running, and it has gone from zero to almost 90 million unique hits, and over 630,000 reader comments in just 4 years.

The dream of every totalitarian government has been the ability to tax the air we breathe. Demonizing harmless “carbon” is their current chosen method.

The UN power grab must be stopped. Scientific research shows conclusively that CO2, a trace gas comprising only 0.00039 of the air, cannot control the climate. Don’t let the Big Gov’t rulers fool you. Demonizing and taxing “carbon” is just their means to an end.

14 1389 July 28, 2011 at 10:10 am

I’ve added http://wattsupwiththat.com to the blogroll. Thanks!

The global warming a/k/a “climate change” scam helps both the socialists and the jihadis. Because it limits any use of domestic fossil fuels, and because none of those “green” energy schemes work, the net effect is to make us much more dependent on OPEC.

I’m also using one of your scientific articles in another post – not about climate, but about the spread of opinion.

15 Short Little Rebel April 24, 2012 at 11:27 pm

Hesperado,

I realize these comments are quite old, but I feel I must clarify that I didn’t write the majority of the above blog. My wording ended just before the statement, “No, Fox News is not a conservative news network!” The author of this post left a link back to my original article and then went on the make his/her comments. Just a note for clarification..

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